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It's rubbish, I hate it. Particularly the online play. I got my xbox back after nearly 12 months of wondering whether I should send it off for repair, and this is what I'm welcomed back to. Makes me want to throw the xbox in the trash can.

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Dec. 3, 2008 | 7:46 PM Malachy says:

You are a finicky consumer, aren't you?

Dec. 3, 2008 | 7:48 PM liljim responds:

No. I just don't see the point in taking steps backwards. GOW was far better than this POS when it came to trying to find a game.

Dec. 3, 2008 | 7:54 PM Get-Sily123 says:

im not sure y u don't like GOW2

Dec. 3, 2008 | 8:00 PM simon says:

Woah woah woah, I just got my Xbox repaired specifically for this game and I loved the gameplay, yeah sure the storyline and overuse of giant monsters in the game could be a throw off but I didn't think it was that bad..

The online play is alright, compared to GOW1 it's a bit trickier to work around, I couldn't find what to do with the catagories but when I got in it was pretty fun with the 5vs5 and the Horde modes.

I guess each to their own, but I remember you being a huge Gears of War fan, playing in a few of your games.. what's up with this one? :(

Dec. 3, 2008 | 8:06 PM Cheddar79 says:

I like angry reviews...maybe I should get Left 4 Dead instead now.

Dec. 3, 2008 | 8:10 PM Mad-Mardigan says:

Remember the days me and you used to play that together?
Now those days are dead >:(

Dec. 3, 2008 | 8:20 PM JakBaronKing says:

Well...at least you still have other games.

Here's a thought...why don't you get your money back? You can exchange it or sell it back can't you?

Get some money back.

Dec. 3, 2008 | 8:45 PM lazydoctor says:

Care to elaborate on why you don't like it? I'm either getting this or Left 4 dead for christmas.

Dec. 3, 2008 | 9:06 PM Wurmy says:

I really want to play Left4Dead... :(

Dec. 3, 2008 | 9:16 PM speeling says:

I thought that the graphics were out of this world, yet the gameplay was shit.

Dec. 3, 2008 | 9:54 PM John-The-Biter says:

Well how much better good it have been? The main selling point for GOW and GOW 2 were ZOMG CHAINSAW GUN!!!!111. I definetley reccomend Orange Box. Or Left 4 Dead. Can't go wrong with Valve.

Dec. 3, 2008 | 10:40 PM igott says:

Trade it for Fallout 3.

Dec. 4, 2008 | 1:19 AM YoinK says:

GOW 2 is sex

Dec. 4, 2008 | 2:32 AM RockinPunk says:

There was a patch that was supposed to decrease matching times.

Dec. 4, 2008 | 3:28 AM SardonicSamurai says:

It doesn't have the same feel as the original. I played a couple times, and haven't played it since. Beat the campaign, played a few online games, and that was that. It could also be because I've been really busy as of late, so I've barely even touched my 360, but meh...

Dec. 4, 2008 | 3:54 AM Nuttro says:

ask for your money back and get a better game

Dec. 4, 2008 | 6:59 AM snake23 says:

They released a patch for that.

Dec. 4, 2008 | 10:43 AM ShadowWest says:

WHAT

GOW2 gets GOW1 on the floor, punches its face in and shits down it throat and laughs

>:(

Dec. 4, 2008 | 10:58 AM Scuzzfest says:

It's all broken isn't it? all the games lag, puts me with people half way across the Globe, I'm only sticking around with it for Horde and Campaign. Even the story was messed up. Crap boss fights, the works. It was a big disappointment.

Dec. 4, 2008 | 2:10 PM skinnyeddy says:

Say what? :P
I love Gears 2. Okay, so they messed up the shotgun (as did Halo 2) but overall its a much better game.

Well, if you don't like it, go buy L4D. Amazing Demo.

Dec. 4, 2008 | 2:12 PM JohnnyUtah says:

there are some definite issues with the online play...

i swear, i know lag is always an issue but its extremely apparent in gears, always causing seemingly random outcomes to any close encounter you have.

also, when a guy is walking towards me with a revving chainsaw, and i shoot him point blank with the shotgun, HE SHOULD BE KNOCKED OUT OF THE CHAINSAW ANIMATION. not slightly fazed, then continues to cut me in half.

UGH

Dec. 4, 2008 | 2:34 PM Jonas says:

The only thing that I feel was the most amazing step forward was the crawl while down. Seriously, that is nice. Oh okay, and being able to hit RT while holding a grenade while downed.

Yeah, anyways, pick up left 4 dead, or hit me up. You should know my GT. <3

Dec. 4, 2008 | 6:16 PM SardonicSamurai says:

^ ^ ^ Agreeing with Johnny on the fuckin shotgun to chainsaw shit. I'd get so pissed when I shot some guy while they had their chainsaw out, and I'd STILL get cut in to pieces. I much preferred it when if you shot them, no matter what little damage you did, it'd knock them out and they couldn't rev it up again for a couple of seconds. I could swear that I'd knock someone out of the rev, and then less than a second later they'd rev it up again and kill me

T_T

Dec. 4, 2008 | 10:42 PM Ansel says:

I really didn't like GOW2 either. I'm not online, so I can't talk about the online play, but I do like what small changes they added to the gameplay, and don't really have any complaints there... however, the campaign is worthless. What made Gears 1 so great is that even though you were essentially fighting the exact same enemies the exact same way the entire game, it was still fun. Whenever the game strayed too far from that basic experience, it got really, really bad. The Corpser fight was a particular low point. GOW2 has many, many segments where you're taken out of the run and shoot mindset and forced to play differently, and it's jarring and simply doesn't feel right :(

Also the dialogue/story was incredibly bad

Dec. 5, 2008 | 6:54 AM darknessdweller says:

Damn, that sucks :(

Dec. 5, 2008 | 11:24 AM Peglay says:

if u dont want your xbox anymore....mail it to me, it will save u the trouble of destroying it ;P

Dec. 5, 2008 | 4:07 PM Atgod88 says:

I don't do consoles any more because of this kind of crap. I use PC because the internet community can upgrade the game with better maps and shit sense developers these days only care about getting their product hyped, have people buy it, then go lol but GOW3 will be better, so buy that one too. Left 4 Dead is probably the best game of this late year so far, I don't know how the Xbox version runs but if you get it on the PC it will blow your freaking mind.

Dec. 5, 2008 | 11:33 PM willobeen says:

The balancing is weird.

Dec. 6, 2008 | 9:40 AM Insanimation says:

Is there ANY product you ARE happy with?
iPod? You hate it.
Any other MP3 player? It's terrible.
Headphones? Crap.
USB connections? Useless.
Gears of War? Rubbish.

These are all simply taken from your previous news posts alone...

Dec. 6, 2008 | 7:59 PM liljim responds:

I don't hate the iPod. In fact, I was pretty attached to it. What I do hate is the fact that apple are prepared to try and charge me what it'd cost (minus a few $$) to fix the one that I have as opposed to buying a new one altogether.

I don't hate other MP3 players. I've only had experience with iPod and Creative Zen before, and so I can only comment on what experience I've had with those. The Zen lost all my tracks, and the iPod repair bill was just laughable. I think I have legitimate cause for being grumpy about both.

Headphones weren't crap - they were very good, but I was bitterly disappointed about not being able to get a cable to hook up the old headphones I had. I was extremely happy with the headphones themselves and I bought another pair of Sennheiser headphones after the frustration with the first set - which should indicate that the problem wasn't with the brand or the phones.

USB connections aren't products - they're a means of connecting devices. In an era where some people have concerns with the environment, what's the harm in moaning about the fact that you have to have products x cables to actually connect things up? Wouldn't it make sense to have a universal cable for all USB devices and not end up having a living space occupied with a spaghetti full of cables? Afterall, the acronym for USB is UNIVERSAL serial bus.

Gears of War I loved. I'm annoyed about the whole matchmaking thing in Gears of War 2, though.

Most of the things that I complain about are things that I have previously loved.

Dec. 6, 2008 | 8:23 PM cast says:

I know how you feel along the lines of feeling let down by Epic, and probably more so by Microsoft. I found the Gow2 campaign to be basically what they stated it would be, but they totally ruined online play for the most part IMO. If they un-nerf the shot gun, and tweek the hell out of the Gernades, and I mean they have to fix ALOT OF SHIT about them, the game will have a shot of being enjoyable online, I've played at a friends house only.

Also, I've went through four Xbox360's and currently do not own one, that's two purchased, two refurbs from M$. I'm planing on getting a Samsung 52inch screen coupled with an Xbox 360 Elite with the falcon chip set, and mark my word - if the damn thing does anything besides red ring within the first three years of ownership as far as breaking goes I will NEVER buy another game console from them EVER, even if it red rings I will still probably take it outside and run it the fuck over, that's just bull shit. But there are a few titles I enjoy like GoW 1 and Call of Duty online, and there's some games out that I'm interested in like Fallout3.. We'll see how it goes.

Another thing, I'm not pissed off but I know alot of people man. I just happened to have caught wind of some details concerning the chat and I know that the Flash portion has been done for quite some time - it's down to "writing it to the data base" and I know all of the other little details. But if you remember that chat we had a while back, you said you didn't have anything to do with it and now I'm thinking you do. I can see why it's a low priority and everything and likely wont come before the credit system in the store, but it should come before anything else, because I was there when Wade closed down the IRC chat and made it unofficial.. Basically, I feel like you lied to me - and I was right about one thing NG staff does work as a team. lol

<Canas> are we twelve?
<WadeNG> and when NG staff enters, they aren't to be met with disrespect by
the chat ops
<deadpool> whats the new chat going to be?
<Solidus> Afraid your sensibilities will be offended, Wade?
<MaCaTtAcK> is this guy 4rlz
<Crimson_Edge> That's what it boils down to, Solidus.
<Guest32166> henice
<Gunter45> disrespect?
<Crimson_Edge> "I can't get my way anymore sense I have no control over
this, so I'm going to do what I can to get it!"
<Gunter45> holy shit man
<Guest41928> Wow Im not banne anymore cool...
<sirevil> <deadpool> whats the new chat going to be?
<cast> Uh, thats really wade stop being assholes.
<sirevil> what he said
<cast> what the fuck guys
<deadpool> man
<Solidus> cast, nevar.
<deadpool> these logs are hillarious
<Guest32166> know youre place
<Gunter45> dude, it's a fucking chat room with people who make fun of
everyone
<MaCaTtAcK> cast there are so many imposters
<MaCaTtAcK> how should we know
<Crimson_Edge> No shit.
<WadeNG> Solidus crossed the line
<Crimson_Edge> It's Newgrounds
<Crimson_Edge> NEWGROUNDS
<WadeNG> He didn't need to go on and on insulting my wife

--------------------------

And here's what he said, and how long ago was this? A long time ago man, years.

<Canas> when silly fun fucking around turns in to being a dickfag on purpose
<Guest32166> bitch
<Gunter45> mac, your mom charges a nickel for a handjob
<WadeNG> When Goldfish's chat is online, we'll see who is welcome, and who
isn't.
<MaCaTtAcK> two pennies now.
<MaCaTtAcK> she lowered her prices
<Crimson_Edge> hahhahaha
<Guest70279> whats up bitches
<deadpool> feer goldfishs chat
<deadpool> you wont be welcomed
<Gunter45> Wade, as long as there's no restrictions on sensibilities, sure
<MaCaTtAcK> goldfish's chat?!
<Solidus> Oh no, secret chatroom clubhouse for leet NGers only.
<Gunter45> I might go there sometimes
<Crimson_Edge> Yes. When PG's chat is up we'll see who's in
<MaCaTtAcK> what did he make his chat with

Dec. 7, 2008 | 8:45 PM liljim responds:

Did you forget to paste the part of the log that indicated that I have anything to do with the chat? If you did, I don't see that part. I'll say again - I don't have anything to do with the chat.

I don't know the ins and outs of what's left to do with the chat enough to comment too much about it, but I can tell you that wherever you "caught wind" of it being anything to do with the database was incorrect.

Dec. 7, 2008 | 2:45 PM brinlarden says:

just face it, British people enjoy a good complain.
: )

Dec. 9, 2008 | 6:22 AM Vincoid says:

Yeah, online play sucks, I don't know what the hell they were thinking when they made it like that.

However, I think that the gameplay is a lot better than the first one. Don't know why exactly, but it just feels a lot better to me...

Dec. 10, 2008 | 12:03 PM Rozner says:

Hey, I know this irrelevant to the topic, but is there any way to stop the favorites list from changing when you add more favorites? I mean, the one on the front user page, can you stop it from displaying new favorites and only showcase a set of favorites that you decide to display on the userpage? Just wondering.

Dec. 13, 2008 | 9:45 PM logan2131 says:

I do like it, but they focused too much on little things, and they really missed out on essentials. Now there's no berserkers. I can relate to your situation because the same thing happened to me except with Halo 3.

Dec. 14, 2008 | 11:46 AM salted-tator-tot says:

Get a gameboy, they work best.

Dec. 15, 2008 | 6:54 PM FatKidWitAJetPak says:

I HATE IT TOO!!! I dont know why everyone is so obsessed with it. >:9

Dec. 17, 2008 | 8:14 PM Brundaty says:

Gears Of War is hot, brutheeerrr

Dec. 18, 2008 | 1:23 PM Goonie says:

Oh come on, you loose some you win some.

Dec. 18, 2008 | 1:45 PM Monkey-Boy says:

I agree the matchmaking system is a POS, but when you get into a good, lag free game it is brilliant. I heard they were fixing the system anyway.

Dec. 18, 2008 | 3:26 PM FurryFox says:

don't throw it out mail it to me!

Dec. 18, 2008 | 4:14 PM madnescombetfan7 says:

gears of war2 has a flame thrower,a ink gernade,lancer shots faster.whats not good about it?

Dec. 18, 2008 | 4:34 PM ILUVSk8ing says:

i agree totally. macthmaking takes years sometimes to find other players.

Dec. 20, 2008 | 1:02 PM iscrulz says:

Huzzah throw that piece of shit in the trash. My ps3 is a year old and I haven't had any problems. You probably treat your gadgets wrong thats why they go fragile on you and break.

Dec. 21, 2008 | 12:57 PM liljim responds:

I treat my equipment perfectly. The issue with the xbox was a common enough one that MS extended the standard 90 day warranty to a 3 year warranty to cover it. If you haven't heard of the red ring issue, then you may have been living under a rock.

I also own a PS3 and I haven't played it in nearly as long as the xbox was broken.

Dec. 23, 2008 | 12:45 AM C1ph3r says:

Oh, how dare you say that!

Dec. 23, 2008 | 3:27 AM yatesy says:

Getting a bit grumpy in your old age eh James?

Dec. 28, 2008 | 2:16 PM onepiecedevotee says:

I have to wholeheartedly agree with you on Gears 2. You could watch Cogs Of War 2, get the same aftertaste and save 60 bucks.

Dec. 31, 2008 | 3:36 PM Matt475 says:

Try Farcry 2. Very realistic, and since it has a leet map editor you get to play new, creative maps every game.

Jan. 1, 2009 | 7:17 PM toxicdevil93 says:

F A I L !

Jan. 2, 2009 | 7:54 PM SauceBlack says:

well i have to agree with you...
im a hardcore gears fan, and must say that gears 2 online has turned me of... very much so to the point were im now seeing myself playing call of duty instead of my beloved game...
ut hey, shit happens... you have to admit the campainge was good. :D
if you wana play some gears 1, feel free to add me!
my acounts (narwak)
cheers.
Mike.

Jan. 5, 2009 | 6:28 AM ninjaman212 says:

whoa dude you got a lot of stuff

Jan. 8, 2009 | 5:19 PM UMREE says:

get a ps3 and resistance, 30v30 online play, lagg free.

Jan. 9, 2009 | 3:19 PM cast says:

I'm still waiting to buy another one. This month Mark Rein said there will be a kick ass update, so I'm going to wait and see how the majority feels about the new patched GoW 2 before wasting my money.. >: | AND I LOVE GEARS A LOT!!! The promises and things he addressed in the post made me pretty damn happy, and he also said there's MANY MANY more things being fixed up which he didn't state. ( I hope they're really fixes to problems.. and not more problems.. blah )

I really hope his post on the Epic forums holds up and this game really ends up shining online, brighter than the first.. *fingers crossed* I've always rooted for epic. They've been one of my favorite developers since the release of Unreal, and I absolutely still consider UT 99 and GoW two of my favorite games of all time.

With the hopefully good news coming soon about GoW 2, I will admit I'm still weary of Microsoft due to their shitty customer support. Then there's the more obvious reason.. Wait maybe they're both stubbed toes? haha..

I wish it wasn't like this - I still personally prefer it over the Ps3 regardless but damn..

That's just me telling you there's updates coming and I really want to hear your opinion too when it's out. :)

Plus I love talking about this stuff..

Whats up with Microsoft and IE's broken box model? Are they ever going to fix that? I know it's random, but its a nigly little problem that had me wanting to rip my hair out. I have a little div that shows up perfect on FF, and Chrome, but it's one pixel to the left on IE. I know about the browser specific instructions but Myspace rips them right out.. >: (

Jan. 9, 2009 | 3:19 PM cast says:

Btw, Resistance 2 is actually really great

Jan. 20, 2009 | 10:41 PM Sciutoman says:

GOW2 is alright.

Jan. 22, 2009 | 8:12 PM COMboy112 says:

the first one was better but in my opinion but this one was alright as for my 2nd 360 am going to rip it a glory hole and rape it for going ried ring of death on me I MIGHT JUST SWITCH TO A PS3! >=(

Jan. 30, 2009 | 9:44 PM Evark says:

Matchmaking pisses me off. But, it's really Epic trying to do more with what they've got than they're capable. They want to give hardcore fans and players a rewarding experience (ie: getting them matched with decent opponents and a reasonable skill tracking system), but then they make joining or leaving a game so restrictive that it's inaccessible to the casual gamer. Honestly, it's 1/10 that I get to play a full match without at least one member of either team quitting, oftentimes before the match's even begun! It's like, why not just find another player right then and there?

I mean, the gameplay dynamics themselves are mostly all improvements. The weapons are decently balanced, etc. etc. It's just that multiplayer pretty much always boils down to who's got host and a team lacking quitters.

Jan. 31, 2009 | 9:58 PM pizzaman117 says:

im sorry i stole your banner, i'll get one from sig makers...

Feb. 1, 2009 | 8:45 PM slackerzac says:

If you dont want it your Xbox anymore I'll take it.

Feb. 4, 2009 | 5:23 PM Lagamuffin says:

Thank god, someone else who doesn't like it!

But after playing GoW2, I wish they'd integrate some of the only good things back into GoW1 because when I play it, It feels dull and listless... :(

Feb. 7, 2009 | 2:43 AM alkakrepierer says:

GoW 2 is really that bad??? shit maybe I shouldnt buy it

Feb. 17, 2009 | 10:00 PM jakenator85 says:

that sucks, i know how you feel...no i don't

Feb. 27, 2009 | 1:10 PM kdfsjljklgjfg says:

Yeah, the online is shit and disappointed me to a ridiculously high level.

At least there's L4D though, and the Bad Company community hasn't deserted yet. It's actually still kinda thriving. And I still have Rock Band 2 and NHL 09, so I have my 2 shooters, my misc. and my hockey fix, so I still have my basic requirements of enjoyment on xbox.

Mar. 2, 2009 | 4:25 PM Bjra says:

you dont seem like a very happy person

buy this and listen to it:
http://www.amazon.com/Power-Now-Guide -Spiritual-Enlightenment/dp/157731208 2

Mar. 2, 2009 | 8:29 PM Steven-Polley says:

Is it really that bad? I mean I love the first one (I just bought it a few weeks ago for PC)... but seriously... it seems like a good game, and I don't see how the second one could be that bad.

Mar. 4, 2009 | 4:34 AM moo5000 says:

Yeah, when GOW2 first came out the online was very bad, but do to recent patches, most of the long matchmaking has been shorten, HOWEVER, the shotgun can get pwn by a chainsaw very easily for some reason now, so If you go back, Saw vs Saw or Shoot them down before they charge and saw you :P

Mar. 4, 2009 | 9:28 PM zet8228 says:

hey of you dont want your 360 ill have it XD

Mar. 10, 2009 | 4:23 PM Nax5 says:

If you wanna play some xb live, i'll be on next week. I have gears 1 and 2, H3 and cod4. Also BF: bad company. Gears 2 online is shitty. But i love the campain.

Mar. 11, 2009 | 9:55 AM Anco6900 says:

I'm not so sure about the multiplayer because i don't play it that much but me and my friends would play co-op and have a blast! I hated the ending to the game though.

Mar. 12, 2009 | 9:18 PM knugen says:

Reply to my PM.. pl0x? :)

Mar. 14, 2009 | 11:38 PM SupraAddict says:

I've never played either Gears, but I'll take your word for it.

Mar. 14, 2009 | 11:58 PM teserut says:

i actually never played the first gears, and i don't play the second too often but when i do. I seem to enjoy it, even on live. But i can honestly say i see where you are coming from. tis the same with most great games that satisfy the public so much, they demand a sequel.

Mar. 15, 2009 | 1:06 PM 455H0L3 says:

Same, it isn't so awesome as I expected + multiplayer is a shit.

Mar. 18, 2009 | 7:29 PM nasifc says:

whoaw you said gow 2 is rubbish?it's probably off of anger but the online is kinda wack i agree

Mar. 22, 2009 | 5:58 PM Steven-Polley says:

You should play halo lololol </sarcasm>

Mar. 24, 2009 | 12:17 PM Sinitech says:

lolsnow

Apr. 4, 2009 | 12:02 AM jakenator85 says:

its not that good, not that bad. i guess i can agree with you

Apr. 11, 2009 | 2:08 AM Fuoco says:

I'm afraid I have yet to try it :(

I've been dying to play that game, but for one reason or another I still haven't.

Apr. 15, 2009 | 7:09 AM Alex-618 says:

it is true this game isnt what I was expecting,the first one was very good but the second was a disapointment

Apr. 16, 2009 | 11:53 AM BladeHammer says:

Not with the new update its not.
New ranking system makes it much easier to rank up and actually know how to rank up

And stop overusing the shotgun/sniper Gears 2 is made so you cant play the game as a shotgun beast all the time (lolololol)

Apr. 20, 2009 | 2:08 PM madmaximas says:

dude that blows! i hope things get better for you later on!

May. 5, 2009 | 12:28 PM reveihca says:

Should've thrown the Xbox in the trash the first time, when it got RROD. Shitty product with shitty overrated games. Why would anyone spend money get something repaired that's literally guaranteed to break again due to the same problem? Even worse M$ acknowledges this and instead of replacing the broken ones they offer a limited warranty for Xbox owners and make you pay another $200 dollars for an Elite. This is why video games fucking suck >:(