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FUCK APPLE.

Posted by liljim Nov. 24, 2008 @ 1:11 PM EST

After having a creative zen mp3 player that packed up on me (admittedly, after a good few years' worth of service), I decided to buy an iPod classic. Can't remember how long ago that was, maybe a couple of years, tops.

So, whilst I was in Japan earlier this month, the iPod started making clicking noises as I turned it on. That starved me of music and a couple of videos that I'd intented to watch on the plane ride home.

I've spent the past couple of nights looking through apple's self-help tech support for information on how to fix the problem, even down to the point where I'd copied and pasted some commands into a batch file (wtf? what kind of 'support' is that?), and spent even more time googling around for the answer.

Having tried everything I'd read about, I decided to give apple's tech support a call. 10 minutes later, after trying to decipher what the lady at the end of the line was saying to me (and her trying to figure out what I was saying to her), it turns out that they want to charge me £130 (around $210 USD) to repair the unit.

I can buy a brand new one for £30 more than that. Reluctantly then, it looks like I'm going back to Creative... unless anyone has any other suggestions.

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Nov. 24, 2008 | 1:19 PM mranarchy says:

You seem to be really unlucky with your Mp3's and all that...

(first? :3)


Nov. 24, 2008 | 2:24 PM cronic-22 says:

Reluctantly?

Zen's are the greatest i cant understand why you went to apple anyway. I would strongly recomend the creative X-fi, amazing features,easy to use software and superb CD ripping software for the highest quality mp3 conversion.

Nov. 24, 2008 | 2:46 PM liljim responds:

When my last Zen died, I lost around 8,000 tracks. Burning all of them again made me curse Creative with every other breath. That's why I'm reluctant to go back to them, though having been through that once, I have at least learned one lesson - regularly back up all the files (though I'm still missing around a thousand tracks after my iPod's demise.)

Oh and yeah, I think I am going to invest in an X-Fi.

Updated: Nov. 24, 2008, 2:47 PM

Nov. 24, 2008 | 2:34 PM HalcyonicFalconX says:

I feel your pain. My Ipod's dying on me. I've had it for about two years. But now it will stop mid-song sometimes the only way to get it to play anything again is by resetting it.
My advice? Get a Zune. Or be like Mindchamber and try making your own NG mp3 player that is also an A-Bot. :P If you guys did I would so buy that.


Nov. 24, 2008 | 2:46 PM awesomecooper says:

Those people should be arrested for being greedy >:(


Nov. 24, 2008 | 3:01 PM Toukeman says:

The one thing apple doesnt tell you about the ipod is it's short life expectancy. I've gone through 2 ipods in the last 8 months.


Nov. 24, 2008 | 3:30 PM Mogly says:

The same thing happened with my two iPods. I was very lucky with the first and after some swindling, they agreed to fix it despite it being out of warranty - the refurbished one however packed up not to long after.

Load of bollocks.

I'm going back to cheapo Argos models.

Nov. 24, 2008 | 11:22 PM liljim responds:

Good call.

Hope you don't mind me saying, but you look very similar to Pete Doherty. If you take offense to that, at least you can take respite in the knowledge that you might one day end up with Kate Moss (worse things could happen, let's face it.)

... or that picture in your latest blog post WAS Pete Doherty, in which case I feel extremely stupid.

Updated: Nov. 24, 2008, 11:29 PM

Nov. 24, 2008 | 4:01 PM John-The-Biter says:

Zune. Definetley go with a Zune. People are quick to judge it against an Ipod, but once you factor everything, including life expectancy, Zune comes out on top.


Nov. 24, 2008 | 4:25 PM Aksumka says:

I've been using Creative for a few years now. Aside from the occasional crash that my 30GB Vision M gets, everything has been fine. I've had this one for a few years now.


Nov. 24, 2008 | 4:42 PM Wholyish says:

I just bought a zen x-fi the other day. The controls are a bit confusing looking, but the sound rapes anything the ipod has.


Nov. 24, 2008 | 4:59 PM igott says:

Now you know my pain. ZUNE FTW!


Nov. 24, 2008 | 5:16 PM De-Line says:

ive had my ipod for almost 4 years now and never had any problems. for a little while it would freeze up and id have to reset it pretty frequently but that was a while ago and hasnt happened since.

and last week it was completely submersed in a bin of ice and water, still kickin.


Nov. 24, 2008 | 6:24 PM igott says:

I'll take a look at the X-Fi, I just won't find it because The local Wal-Mart carries only Zunes and iPods.


Nov. 24, 2008 | 6:49 PM wweerrdd says:

Let me save you some time: Either buy a different brand or buy another apple. I've spent a lot of time temporarily fixing about 3 different iPods (4th gen) only to have them break again. A quick solution if you want to pop the guy open is to stick what I like to call "vibrational attenuation package 3.0" into the case. What is this nifty thing? It's a piece of paper that you can stick between the hard drive and the case that will get it to work until it fucks up again. Maybe two weeks maybe a couple of hours. But, it could work for a plain ride or to maybe have one last beautiful song play before it hits the shit heap. Anyway, that's seriously the best option. Don't dick around with it for three months give or take before you realize you could have been enjoying life! :P


Nov. 24, 2008 | 7:43 PM DUSKVOID24 says:

my zen died on me last month :(


Nov. 24, 2008 | 8:08 PM kiljoy96 says:

Zune time?


Nov. 24, 2008 | 8:23 PM WolfBlitz2 says:

sledge hammer

always the solution
wordeked for my lapttop


Nov. 24, 2008 | 9:34 PM Malachy says:

I have always been a fan of iRiver. Got one years and years ago and it lasted about 4 or 5 years with nor problems. when it finally died it was because the charger died and the battery discharged for the final time.

I have this small zen thing and another little usb thing but after losing my iriver I never even put music back on my computers

Nov. 24, 2008 | 11:09 PM liljim responds:

So you don't have any music to listen to on an mp3 player right now?


Nov. 24, 2008 | 9:42 PM speeling says:

How..do I fuck an apple?


Nov. 24, 2008 | 10:37 PM Sentinel94 says:

Ah, well sorry to hear about that. I've had an i-pod shuffle, an i-pod nano (the original slim one), and my i-pod video, 1st generation (30Gigs), and I've had a few provlems, but I've mostly been able to fix them. As for your pic at the top lefthand corner, where are you skiing anyways? I'm a fan of Vail, Colorado myself.

Nov. 24, 2008 | 11:12 PM liljim responds:

That would be in Les Menuires, France. I have distant relatives in Canada, though I'm not sure where they're at, exactly.

I'd love to get out skiing in some of the locations that are available in the States and Canada.

Updated: Nov. 24, 2008, 11:14 PM

Nov. 24, 2008 | 10:44 PM trishamaria says:

i really wish creative would come out with a high capacity zen- my 40 gb xtra aint cutting it. i realllllly REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLY hate apple, so the sooner they come out with one, the happier i'll be. i've got over 100 gb of music and a few movies that i'd like to have on the go-as i travel a looooot.
best of luck on fixing your player- i'd say hold off for buying another crapple pod, and keep searching for fixes online for your existing player!

Nov. 24, 2008 | 11:13 PM liljim responds:

Some of the later mp3 players seem to be erring in the favour of removable storage, rather than internal storage. So you can use memory cards, pretty much as you might in your digital camera (if you have one) to tote around and store your music on.


Nov. 25, 2008 | 3:33 AM xTOXICxEMPIRE says:

Oh man, I know how you feel.

My first iPod was a red and black iPod U2, back in the good 'ol black and white screen days. Actually I fucking hated the black and white screen. Anyway, it crashed and I lost all my 2, 800 songs. Doesn't seem like much, but I didn't have them on my computer, so I lost them forever.

I probably know what caused your iPod to break down. Because they have such a large hard drive now, the new iPod Classics can screw up if they're suddenly jerked, or if you move them a lot (like through running or dancing).

I got a 160gb iPod classic from my host family, when I went to China! Didn't pay a cent :)
I've been taking extra care of it, as I don't want to lose this one.

Anyway liljim, try not to shake your new mp3 player around too much, apple or not. Also, I fucking hate apple's. Computers that is, not hardware like iPods and speakers.


Nov. 25, 2008 | 7:49 AM LtMcMuffin says:

Fuck you, John-The-Biter, you don't know what you're talking about. Go finish some journalism article or something.
That being said, the Zune is pretty good.


Nov. 25, 2008 | 11:00 AM Jonas says:

James, I sold a variety of Mp3 players when I worked at Radioshack, and needless to say, overall the Zune came out with flying colors. I own an 80gb model, and it works fantastic. I also enjoy how my microsoft points that I buy for my 360 also go over to the Zune store, so if I have an odd amount left, I'll just buy a music video or something. The screen quality is nicer, with more detail, and the overall layout is fantastic. Plus the wireless syncing is freaking nice.

Too bad I can't try the wireless sharing, because nobody else has one around me :<


Nov. 25, 2008 | 11:20 AM Malachy says:

yeah, i don't have portable mp3 music right now. I've just started listening to a CD in the car if I really want to listen to anything. The problem I have is that when the computer would go to shit, I would lose all of my music and if the MP3 player went to shit, I'd lose all of my music that wasn't on the computer. I gave up on the whole fiasco.

My dad also got me this car tuner so I could listen to music, but I only have 2 or 3 CDs on my player now, so on a long drive where I remember to actually play the music, it gets boring fast after listening to the same album once or twice.


Nov. 25, 2008 | 11:46 AM peacefulsniper says:

could your account get any gayer. gears of war sucks.


Nov. 25, 2008 | 1:48 PM JohnnyUtah says:

you should just march right into an apple store and make a scene. they'll likely swap it out with a new one on the spot.

I'm currently using 2 ipods right now, but my first *3rd generation* ipod was screwed from the day I bought it plagued with wierd clicking noises..etc. but since then no other problems.


Nov. 25, 2008 | 6:47 PM Imaku says:

Meh, I just go with cheapie models of MP3 players, I mean, I don't really have that many songs, and why exactly pay the extra cash just to watch videos? As long as it's at least 1GB and has an FM radio, I am happy.


Nov. 25, 2008 | 6:58 PM igott says:

I got an Idea:

Send them a formal report on the problem, if you threaten to give Microsoft a 'code' into the Apple Servers, all hell would break loose and Steve Jobs would be Steve Jobless.


Nov. 25, 2008 | 7:15 PM RobbyPaulLul says:

Yes fuck apple indeed. Bully? Bully.


Nov. 25, 2008 | 9:14 PM Get-Sily123 says:

lol I've had my Ipod for 5 years


Nov. 25, 2008 | 11:09 PM Mr-Money says:

That is just flat bad.

My advice would be to restart the iPod, but undoubtably, you've tried this countless times.

Once when my iPod Classic broke, it started working again once I used it on a Windows Vista machine. If you're not using it with Vista, try that. I can't believe Vista actually has a use!


Nov. 26, 2008 | 1:34 PM RECKLESSFIRE says:

its sad. money waset to make a device that sucks so much.


Nov. 26, 2008 | 2:09 PM ChemicalBurn says:

I had a Zen for awhile and now I have a Zune. The Zune has taken a hell of a beating before I had to go and trade my original in. Everything from a keying from my ex to a drop from a second story window. So if you're willing to go Microsoft and take that pussy Mac shit elsewhere. Go get a Zune. The cons on the other hand are:
1. The older software has time issues where instead of telling you how far into the song you are, it remains at zero.
2. Some glitches with not being able to upload certain music has occurred but I recently got an upgrade for the software and my Zune is back to normal.


Nov. 26, 2008 | 3:56 PM Oldsage10 says:

iPods can be really annoying sometimes. My friend got the new nano-chromatic after his dies on him... It seems if they get plugged into more than 5 computers, they start to go all crazy... Although I can't say I've had many problems with mine...


Nov. 26, 2008 | 11:21 PM ChazzGoth says:

Ah.. Most companies are money swindling pigs who deserve to be anally raped by a cactus.

My PSP's screen cracked a while ago, I carefully explained to them that it just happened in my pocket, however, the bastards are still demanding £65 in order to repair it..

As for my I-pod..

I lost my 30G I-pod video a while back, so in the mean time i've been using a 10 quid one out of argos, to be honest it's just as good.. Just no charger/colour screen display, which i'm not bothered about at all.

Just grab yourself a cheap one, or if you wanna watch videos and the like simply grab yourself a PSP/Mini DVD player, they're pretty good.


Nov. 27, 2008 | 3:41 AM ThisUserNameSucks says:

Get a Sansa:
Pros:
Smaller
More durable
Cheaper
Not Creative

Cons:
Slightly lower video quality
Depending on which iPod you want, the screen size might be smaller


Nov. 27, 2008 | 6:13 AM DrBeach says:

BEST IDEA EVER
get a signing frog


Nov. 27, 2008 | 11:15 AM Wraith2000 says:

I have a Zen Mosaic.

Best thing ever.


Nov. 27, 2008 | 10:31 PM Lazzars says:

i've got plenty of good things to say about creative. i had my last little black pebble looking mp3 player from them about 3 years ago and that lasted me a good 2 years. only died after i left it in the sun too long and the screen died :( but i gots me a walkman after that (only 8 gig mind, not enough for the amount of music i have on my PC but regularly syncing it means i can still listen to my current playlist) which i'm very happy with. i thought long and hard about getting another creative with an SD slot for upgrading the memory but decided insted to buy that as a present for someone. so if you go creative go to them with faith.


Nov. 27, 2008 | 11:01 PM eatmoreflesh says:

SOuP
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Nov. 27, 2008 | 11:26 PM Pengus says:

Zens are beasts. Mine went through the washer and dryer and still works. Not to mention how much easier it is to use programs with non-apple products.


Nov. 28, 2008 | 4:54 AM UserName-ERROR says:

great job with the fav system!


Nov. 28, 2008 | 5:42 PM 51430 says:

Apple is a sovereign master of overpricing it's hardware and support. They have their proprietary line of computers, music players, and other hardware, so they think "I know, let's make our stuff cost lots even though it's not any different than anything else!".

Honestly, you're better off with a Creative one again or even Microsoft's flashy new Zune. iPods aren't any different from any other MP3 player on the market, they just overprice it because they designed and made it themselves, and because of it's compatibility with their Macintosh computers, which are also insanely overpriced. Yet their "cool" design and somewhat innovative scroll-wheel and graphics does not outweigh the fact that it's not good at all when it comes to overall product lifetime, in many cases. People don't care if it has cool-looking design or graphics, they just want to listen to their damn music.

As for me, I'll stick to my good ol' PSP for my music needs.


Nov. 28, 2008 | 7:34 PM Posa says:

Fixing that problem is easy.....don´t ever...under any circumstances use apple stuff,cause its all junk and it sucks and it was made by the devil´s bitches!!!


Nov. 28, 2008 | 7:37 PM Luigi77777 says:

FUCK APPLE? FUCK YOU!


Nov. 29, 2008 | 10:45 AM LampFace says:

ipod just copy creative anyway.


Nov. 29, 2008 | 3:06 PM WhiteDJ says:

In Soviet Russia, Apple Fucks You!


Nov. 29, 2008 | 5:32 PM Luigi77777 says:

That makes no sense


Nov. 30, 2008 | 7:10 AM ClownKing says:

The larger Ipods should not be used for things that it would bounce alot. It has a little needle that if bumped the wrong way at the right time will kill it. I found this out after skiing with mine. If you want it fixed check out iresq.com they will fix it cheaper than apple. They fix mine twice! :) Now i have a nano for skiing and skateboarding and i am more careful with my video! Hope this helps.


Nov. 30, 2008 | 2:32 PM EYEL0VEPOOZY says:

no one gives a shit >:(


Dec. 1, 2008 | 8:07 AM SyNdRoMe says:

you could go for some mad ass syndergy, like getting a nokia n96, its got about 16GB i think, but it's less of pain in the arse to change tracks as theres no DRm bullshit on devices like that, I've had an n91 8GB for 2 years now, its battered to hell but it still plays music for about 20 hours and its the best mp3 player i've ever owned


Dec. 1, 2008 | 12:09 PM Cyberdevil says:

No other suggestions, apple is rotting.


Dec. 1, 2008 | 4:43 PM LampFace says:

lol i knew someone would say "FUCK YOU"


Dec. 2, 2008 | 8:26 AM Brundaty2 says:

AAAAA....maaaazzziiiinnngggg


Dec. 2, 2008 | 8:50 AM Andsoitbegins says:

Have you tried different headphones?
lol not very good advice but who knows.


Dec. 2, 2008 | 10:57 AM straberrykiler6789 says:

are you gona delete this page lol

http://www.newgrounds.com/downloads/i pod/


Dec. 2, 2008 | 5:08 PM CIS690 says:

THAT MUST REALY FUCKIN SUCK


Dec. 3, 2008 | 6:08 PM bahamalama says:

I have an insignia Media player (I don't know if they exist over there) and I got it from best buy for roughly 100$. It's a 4 gigabyte model which can hold music, photos, audio books(don't ask...), and even videos. The price has undoubtedly gone down (I've had mine for 3 years) and the newer models have blue tooth sync buttons for wireless headphones. It's also small, has a sleek design, and a micro SD card slot (Which can expand even mine to around 10 gigs) and the newer models have more storage, up to around 8 gigs.

This isn't much, but they will be coming out with more micro SD cards, and it syncs to the PC easily and plays MANY different formats of music.


Dec. 4, 2008 | 1:01 PM AvatarKami says:

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Dec. 4, 2008 | 7:51 PM DocSprite says:

Get a Zune. Worked well for Stamper.


Dec. 5, 2008 | 3:54 PM CreepyAnimeFreak says:

Man, that sucks. Good luck getting a new mp3 ^^_ hope it doesn't die this time


Dec. 8, 2008 | 3:36 PM nichols421 says:

I fuckin hate apple. That company does nothing besides trick people into buying the same overpriced crap with a different name over and over again. I ave a whole huge hate speech against apple on my blog at www.tokaylife.blogspot.com. Come check it out and help me destroy those I-bitches.


Dec. 8, 2008 | 5:23 PM MrNash says:

My iPod is hanging in there so far, but I can't turn it off. It has to be left alone with nothing playing so that it auto shuts down after a few minutes. >_<


Dec. 10, 2008 | 9:09 PM Crossed-Swords says:

i use a Creative Muvo, the cheap 1 gig (2 gig now for the same price as i bought my 1...*sigh*) anyway it works fine, except its memory fails me, but im just going to get a psp then probably buy a memory stick dedicated to music. or at home or somewhere with wireless go online and listen on the web.


Dec. 13, 2008 | 2:24 AM MrCongeniality says:

WAH. Take it back and exchange.


Dec. 14, 2008 | 2:16 AM xellon says:

whoah... i bet your really pissed....^^


Dec. 24, 2008 | 12:41 AM dooseyboy says:

well i have a PSP (slim nd light) and it works perfectly as an mp3 player and video player.
also you can buy umd's with movies!
its the perfect portable multimedia machine!


Dec. 24, 2008 | 5:49 PM simi686 says:

Lol true. AND THERE EARPHONES ARE SHIT


Dec. 24, 2008 | 9:28 PM ransha says:

im telling you the ipod shuffle is great. bullet proof, and cheap.
check it out.


Dec. 25, 2008 | 10:43 PM Kokejin says:

Stay with Creative, please they're like the best. I have I zen now and I love it


Jan. 1, 2009 | 9:05 AM eqc96 says:

Simply buy the ipod shuffle....... unless you wanna see movies....... your screwed


Jan. 8, 2009 | 2:17 PM samusaran43 says:

Yeah, just go back. I never bought an I-pod, and never will. My PSP does my MP3 work just fine, and video, and games, ect...
Apple just... sucks...


Jan. 11, 2009 | 6:45 PM tazaryoot says:

if you have a pc it would be wise to back to creative, ipod and apple are like some super big snotty specialized company, and if your ipod breaks, u lose it or get a new one, there's no fixing it. if i were you id go back to zen.

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